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Mikhail Piotrovsky: “We live in an age of artificiality,
but museums give us a sense of authenticity”
An interview for the Regions’ Club - Club-rf.ru
The online office of the heads of the Regions of the Russian Federation
26 January, 2012
In an interview with the Regions’ Club, Mikhail Piotrovsky, the Chairman
of the Union of Museums in Russia and the Director of the Hermitage described
how important the role of the governors is in the development of museum
affairs, and why ethnographic and museum tourism must be under the control
of the regional authorities, and explained why the classical museum is
still relevant in our multimedia age.
- Mikhail Borisovich, to what extend is it possible for museums to
develop without the support of the governmental authorities? What role
should the governors play in that process?
- The development of museums without government is not possible anywhere,
neither at the center, nor in the provinces, since otherwise museum work
turns into show business, into a way to make money, and that is very destruction.
That is why there absolutely must be support on both the federal and regional
levels. The governors have a major role to play in this. Both museum and
theatrical culture is developing in many regions, where the local leaders
are interested in it. That’s why, at the Union of Museums in Russia, we
regard cooperation with the governors very significant. When we organize
an extramural exhibit, we ask several hundred questions about the museums’
readiness to accept it, and we must receive positive answers to them,
and we are also interested in the governor’s readiness to give the event
special status and visit the exhibit personally. While traveling around
the country, I meet with many governors and almost always find them supportive.
In reality, museum work has already survived the most difficult period,
and now the role of museums in the regions has grown significantly.
- In September of last year at the meeting of the presidium of the
Union of Museums in Russia in Khabarovsk, you spoke about the “cultural
uprooting” of the Far East. Where exactly does it manifest itself: in
the lack of opportunities to expand the collections of local museums,
the fact that new forms of communication with the viewers are poorly developed?
In general, is this only the case in the Far East, or in the entire country
beyond the two capitals?
- This problem effects all of Russia, including our capitals. It is so
difficult and expensive to travel in our country, even between Moscow
and Petersburg, although during the Soviet times it was possible to travel
freely to Leningrad from Moscow to attend an exhibit. That is now returning
a little bit, with people traveling for the sake of cultural events, rather
than cultural events trying to chase down the public. But there are many
organizational questions. There is, of course, the well-known story of
how we sent a painting that we had donated to Khabarovsk to Italy, and
then there were issues with returning it. We had to rent an entire airplane,
since it would have been impossible to deliver it properly by rail. Today
it is easier for us to transport a painting to China or Japan than to
Khabarovsk. And one of the solutions is the development of museums in
the regions. It isn’t only in Petersburg and Moscow that one can find
beautiful museums; for example, there is the excellent museum of local
history in the city of Khabarovsk. We have to periodically remind ourselves
that the Far East and Siberia are Russian, and the most important signs
of that are their churches and museums.
- The heads of many Russian regions are trying to promote their own
archeological and ethnographic tourist projects. What is your opinion
of these initiatives, and is it worth expecting results from these projects,
considering the condition of the infrastructure in the regions?
- These projects are very important, but they must be implemented under
the control and trusteeship of the museum community, and not business.
The most important thing is that the residents of a given region feel
that they have a stake in its history. We must not forget that pure moneymaking
is what happened in Egypt, where tourism perverted the country, and now
radical people will demonstrate against tourism, against “Baksheesh civilization”.
We must not use monuments so that someone can create a business, but rather
use business to make sure that our monuments are in good condition.
- You have led major archeological digs in your time: how would you
characterize the situation in that area? How actively is archeological
research being conducted in contemporary Russia? Are there some archeological
sites that you are concerned about?
- After a long period of inactivity, expeditions have begun again, although
not on the scale that was normal in the Soviet days. But we have a major
problem; so-called “black archeologists”, people without permission, without
specialized education or methodology that are digging for “treasure”.
It all began in the Black Sea region, there are a lot of “black archeologists”
in the black earth region, and now it has moved into Siberia. In Tuva,
it is already necessary to guard excavations from them. We need to apply
force and authority here. We have been struggling to create a security
organization that could protect archeological monuments for a long time
now.
Another issue is the exaggeration sensations and overestimations that
have been made of some archeological discoveries. There is no reason to
say that all of human history started in that spot and that “the Sumerians
are descended from us”. This issue is being resolved with the participation
of the museum community. The criteria here are good taste and museum professionals’
experience. People who work with ancient objects every day have an innate
sense of history; they know the truth when they see it…
- Why, in your opinion, is it important to preserve “the embodiments
of history” in the form of museum pieces?
- The classical museum is not receding into the past; it is distinguished
from cinema, theater and other virtual objects by the fact that it is
centered on an authentic object; it might be something truly ancient or
a newspaper from the 1960’s, but it’s an authentic object, that has an
energy all its own. There exist many ways to help you perceive that energy.
But there must be an object, even if it’s surrounded by four movie auditoriums.
We live in a virtual age, but almost everything disappears at the moment
you turn off the electricity. People go to museums even though they could
see the paintings on their computer screens. That’s the mystical quality
that museums have. We live in an age of artificiality, but the artificiality
is all outside, and museums give us a sense of authenticity.
Mikhail Piotrovsky was interviewed by Alexey Birsky
http://club-rf.ru/interview/mikhail_piotrovskiy/my-zhivem-v-epokhu-vranya-a-muzey-daet-oshchushchenie-podlinnosti/
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