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"We Have a Common Purpose"
Interview for the magazine Voda Zhivaya
This year, the Imperial Orthodox Palestine Society (IOPS) turns 130.
This civic organization was created with the goal of supporting Orthodoxy
in Palestine, as well as facilitating pilgrimages and scientific and educational
activities. Throughout all of Russian history, the IOPS has become the
most successful organization to operate abroad. We are discussing the
Russian presence in the Holy Land and the future of Christian churches
in the Middle East with Mikhail Borisovich Piotrovsky, the Director of
the State Hermitage, and Chairman of the Saint Petersburg branch of the
IOPS.
Forms of cooperation
- Mikhail Borisovich, during the Soviet period the Imperial Orthodox
Palestine Society continued to exist, although the words “Imperial” and
“Orthodox” were removed from its name. How can this phenomenon be explained?
- From the very beginning, the Society combined pilgrimage with educational
and scientific work. Depending on the general situation one type of activity
sometimes predominated. For example, since 1917, the Society began to
exist, first and foremost, as a scientific, book-centred institution,
since pilgrimages to Palestine in the Soviet period were impossible. This
scientific aspect enabled the society to survive as a legal entity. This
was a great achievement by Russian scientists, who managed to tack when
they had to, sometimes compromising and sometimes standing on principle,
but developing what they could in a difficult political situation. Thanks
to them, scientific work connected with Palestine has evolved in every
way. Almost throughout its entire existence, the Society has published
the Palestinian Anthology, where one could find both Semitic Studies and
Heraldry, papers on Eastern Christianity and Byzantine studies, even hagiography.
The Palestinian Anthology was the best scientific journal in Russia. Serious
academic work was published there without any consideration for politics.
Thanks to this situation, the Society survived, and papers on Eastern
Studies got a chance for publication. Much of this can be attributed to
Nina Viktorovna Pigulevskaya, who was the heart of the Palestine Society
for many years; she was a great scientist, a specialist in Syria, and
a person of deep faith and devotion. She was repressed for her participation
in Church life, but she managed to do a great deal to protect the study
of Eastern religions, including Eastern Christianity. She was the very
definition of a Russian intellectual, who is able to do good and right
things under any regime.
A wonderful structure that combined secular, religious and social issues
attracted many intellectually gifted people to the society, M.N. Bogolubov,
B.B. Piotrovsky...
- What has changed today?
- The archaeological aspect of the IOPS has come back, we have managed
to renew our excavations in the Holy Land. Pilgrimages are underway again.
We currently have excellent relations with the Church, but are quite a
few problems, which society tends to inflate. It’s simply the spirit of
the time, everyone wants to attack the Church and culture in general.
The Palestine Society is a model that can help people to develop the correct
form of cooperation in new circumstances.
- How was the return of the IOPS received in the Holy Land?
- Of course, we had to resolve a great deal of legal and property issues.
Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs contributed a great deal here, as did
positive memories of the IOPS. This organization did not serve the narrow
interests of Russia, but rather created an atmosphere where these interests
could be advanced in a way that benefited everyone. As a result, the IOPS
has excellent relations with the government of Israel. The return of the
Saint Sergei Mission in Jerusalem to the Society is important evidence
of this development. The restoration of the Society’s operations in Palestine
itself was met with great enthusiasm. Initially, organizing pilgrimages
took up more of the organization’s time than pure science. Let me remind
you that from the very beginning, one of the areas where the IOPS works
was building Russian schools in Palestine; the people there remember that
to this day. Restoring these schools is very important today, because
a Russia presence is essential to support Christianity in Palestine. After
all, Christianity is practically being destroyed in the Middle East. This
is another area where we can use our traditional methods of cultural cooperation.
Life and Science
- Which aspect of the scientific work of the IOPS is more interesting
to you as a scientist?
-I am interested in the historical interactions of Christian and Islamic
cultures in Palestine. People of different religions lived in one culture
or in extremely similar cultures. That made it possible for them to live
in relative peace, even during the age of the Crusades. In many ways,
both of these cultures fed on this cooperation. This subject is very widely
represented in the Hermitage collections. We have a lot of items that
were made for Christians by Muslims. (For example, the famous horn from
the Kunstkamera of Peter the Great is made in the Eastern miniature style,
it has an inscription celebrating a certain leader, and the Four Evangelists
are also depicted there. It is clear that this item was made for a Christian
client). Anton Pritula, the head of the department that works with Muslim
art, conducted excellent research on different aspects of the Christian
presence in Persia. Cultural life on the border of two religions is very
interesting. The study of Islam and Christianity in the East may hold
the key to what must be done now.
- How do representatives of Islamic culture see this kind of scientific
cooperation?
- They are willing to have us doing it. They can’t do it themselves,
for various reasons, nor are they even preparing for it. This preparation
is at the heart of the Palestine Society, when regardless of their religious
affiliation, people study various cultures and instances of cultural cooperation.
This is the unique principle that guides our work.
Cross and Crescent
- In Syria today there is a struggle between the government and the opposition,
which represents radical Islamists. How might this affect Christian communities
in Syria?
- I think that the results may be tragic. If the opposition wins and
no consensus is found, then Christianity in Syria will come to an end.
A huge number of refugees are already fleeing the country. I very much
hope that the Western powers will not support the opposition, as they
did in Libya, because it is clear that any new regime will be terrible
for Christians. It is interesting that the alawi regime is good for Christians,
since they are in the minority, and that sect is a guardian of all of
the confessions and religious communities in the country. If the Sunnis
come to power, however, it will be a tragedy. We must do everything in
our power to prevent that tragedy from occurring, and that fact that our
government, despite shouts of protest from around the world, is supporting
Syria with its existing regime is absolutely correct. For us, Eastern
Christianity is a natural ally, a brother, and for that reason it has
always been our spiritual obligation to support it.
- What future do the Christian churches have in the Middle East?
- I think that it is very important for Islam that the Christian churches
be preserved. The character of the Middle East cannot be preserved without
Christians. Today people are already forgetting that the Palestinian resistance
movement of the 60’s and 70’s was primarily Christian. The famous George
Habash, one of the left radical figures of the Palestinian national liberation
movement, was from an Orthodox family.
I think that political Islam will weaken. Like any religion, Islam can
be used for any political ends. In this case all conflicts that acquire
the taint of religious fanaticism (for example, Arab Spring in
Syria) are connected, first and foremost, with social problems, and religion
is used as a cover for religious interests. I hope that radical, fanatical
movements and the religion of Islam itself will go in a different direction.
I repeat, it is very important for the Christian churches to exist alongside
Islam. In Tatarstan, one can find a striking example of such coexistence:
in the Kazan Kremlin, there is an Orthodox Church and Qolsharif Mosque.
What the government of Tatarstan is doing is an important example for
the world. It must be recognized in Europe where cooperation between Christians
and Muslims may lead to a weakening of the hysterical and fanatical sides
of politics. It is important to protect fragile religious peace where
it can be found.
Common purpose
- What is your opinion about returning icons and ceremonial items of
great artistic significance that were seized during the Soviet period.
- I have voiced my position on this issue many times. In this case it
is better to speak of “transferring”, rather than “returning”. This is
because it is precisely cultural institutions that saved part of our cultural
heritage that have both religious and artistic functions. Everything else
was lost. Since these objects were preserved as cultural artifacts, it
is necessary to make a decision in each specific case about what should
be where. A miracle-working icon should be in a church. On the other hand,
an icon that is not miracle-working and is very old ought to be in a museum,
which it will be better preserved. A copy can be made for the church.
The silver decoration of Alexander Nevsky’s reliquary should be in a museum,
because it is an artefact of Russian jewellery from the Elizabethan era.
It was saved as an artefact. The recipe is the same - a copy can be made,
blessed and placed in the temple; we are doing this. The fact that these
disputes are becoming increasingly frequent shows the Church in a very
unflattering light. After all, all of these disputes can be resolved peacefully.
At the Hermitage, we are storing the relics of Saints associated with
various icons and reliquaries. We have already made a list of them and
will transfer them to the Church. For those who are concerned with spirituality,
there is nothing here to argue about. Both the Church and cultural institutions
work in the spiritual sphere. There is no need to try to defeat anyone,
we have a common purpose.
Interviewer: Maria Suhova
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