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Interview with the magazine Business Class
February, 2005
- Mikhail Borisovich, the Hermitage is not just a museum and keeper
of art treasures but a live, dynamic and evolving organism. What is going
on now in the Hermitage? What programs and projects will you be launching
in the near future for the pleasure of Petersburgers?
- The Hermitage owns one of the world's most valuable and complete collections
of art and cultural objects. This imposes a special responsibility on
our museum and for that reason the Hermitage develops its activity along
many different lines simultaneously. The museum collects, studies, puts
on display, and presents to the public objects of art and culture. The
Hermitage disseminates information, educates the public and shapes values.
We are constantly conducting general and specialized tours and lectures,
hosting study circles and internet-classes. Our research activity is an
important component in the worldwide reputation of the Hermitage. We not
only collect things, but we are also permanently busy studying our collection.
We publish books and guides. We conduct scholarly conferences and seminars.
At the same time the Hermitage is like a major international corporation
where much depends on expert and thoughtful management. The difference
is that the criterion for a business corporation's success is earned cash,
whereas a museum is essentially a non-profit institution which receives
public funding and contributions.
- The main task before the Hermitage today is to make our collections
more accessible to visitors, both in Petersburg and beyond. Sometimes
we in the museum administration are criticized, because the public can
see only 5 -10% of all the treasures held by the Hermitage, and this reproach
is not without grounds. Although we use various means to expand the number
of items displayed in the halls, there are nonetheless objective reasons
why we cannot present for viewing everything that we own.
- The first reason is the sheer volume. You will surely agree that if
we were to place along the walls of the museum multi-level showcases with
ancient skulls, tools and crafts of primeval man, the religious articles
from different countries and peoples, etc., then the visitor would simply
be unable to take in all this mass of information. Even now it is difficult
to absorb what is in the Hermitage, and in the near future we will open
the eastern wing of the General Staff building, and the task will be that
much more complex.
- The second reason is the nature of the exhibits themselves. You must
remember that a large part of the art and cultural objects kept in the
Hermitage cannot be permanently exhibited due to their fragility and susceptibility
to the destructive action of light. These are drawings and paintings on
paper, etchings, costumes and textiles. But we are convinced that these
articles also should be accessible to visitors from time to time, otherwise
the museum simply turns into a warehouse. It is precisely this idea of
the need to show all our treasures to the public in various ways that
underlies the Great Hermitage project.
-Đlease tell us about the implementation of this project. What stages
are planned for 2005?
- Strictly speaking, the Great Hermitage is not so much a detailed plan
as it is a concept for development. The Hermitage expands around its basic
physical plant so quickly that sometimes we have to correct the tour guides:
nowadays we look after not six, but already nine buildings in different
parts of the city. The most important part of the development plan is
reconstruction to be carried out under the gallery of the eastern wing
of the General Staff complex. The building has already been transferred
to us officially and the initial tranche of financing has been arranged
with the World Bank and with the federal budget. Work on the architectural
drawings has begun. The collections which we plan to show there include
applied and fine art of the 19th and 20th centuries. The new building
will also house the Museum of the Guards, the Faberge Museum, and the
Shchukin and Morozov collections.
-One problem is that art of the second half of the 20th century is hardly
represented in the Hermitage collections, and now we are discussing with
our Western partners how to correct this situation.is aMorozov collections.
art of the 19th der the gallery of the eastern wing of the Possibly we
will receive some canvases as donations, others will be taken on loan
from other museums and private collections for temporary exhibitions,
still others will have to be bought. I imagine that our galleries will
look to the example of the displays in the Musee d'Orsay, but at the same
time will reflect our own, Hermitage concept of how modern art should
be "served up."
-Another vector of growth in the Great Hermitage plan is the representation
of the Hermitage on the territory of Petersburg. One of the successful
examples has been the Museum of Porcelain at the Lomonosov Porcelain.
Here we succeeded in creating an important precedent: the museum is located
on grounds of the factory and is private, but the porcelain collection
belongs to the state. The Hermitage has charge of the collection and studies
it. We also run the Museum. We work a great deal with the production masters
and management of the factory. We put on joint exhibitions both in Russia
and abroad, and together we publish books. Not long ago we had a very
successful joint exhibition of the Hermitage and the Lomonosov Porcelain
Factory in Amsterdam. The general sponsor of the show was UralSib.
- One other Hermitage location is the Konstantinovsky Palace in Strelna.
On part of the premises there is a permanent display of items from our
collections. The palace houses the Museum of Heraldry and the Museum of
State Awards, allowing us to present some very interesting exhibits from
our holdings which are thematically linked with the functions of the palace
as a diplomatic residence.
-One other way of displaying our collections is the creation of open storage
facilities. Thus in 2004 we opened a repository in the city district near
the Staraya Derevnya metro station. The public is welcome and in terms
of its technical features this is at present the best art repository in
the world. From the very start, the architectural design provided for
display of our collections there. After all one of the important tasks
of such storage buildings is its educational function. Now you can see
there one of the richest collections of furniture and carriages. We are
also preparing to display there monumental paintings, tapestries and costumes.
Guided tours are already being given in the repository and in the future
there will be lectures.
- Despite all this intensive growth in "breadth," we are trying to devote
no less attention to the renovation of the main halls. We are carrying
on permanent work and making the halls of the Hermitage better lit and
inviting. We are increasing the density of paintings hung on the walls
and showing more and more new things. Whereas in the middle of the 20th
century museum aesthetics required that a lot of space was left free around
each object or painting, nowadays we are partially returning to the 19th
century display methods and moving paintings closer together to form a
"carpet" on the wall.
- One further basic direction of the Hermitage's activity is rotating
exhibitions based on our own collections. For these thematic exhibitions
we often choose items which do not necessarily present high artistic value
but are directly related to one or another historical personality or epoch.
Thus, the most important exhibition of 2005 may well be the one devoted
to Emperor Alexander I. He was a controversial figure with whom one associates
many gloomy, great and puzzling events of Russian history, and our exhibition
is intended to substantially rehabilitate the Russian tsar as an individual.
Alexander I did a great deal to increase the Hermitage collections. The
task of such exhibitions is to do more than just take some items out of
the storerooms and show them off. A Hermitage exhibition is always an
original narration in the context of modern cultural and historical discourse.
-It often happens that we are preparing an exhibition for Petersburgers
and visitors to the city and then we send it on to other Russian cities
or abroad. Not long ago we completed a program of showing part of the
Hermitage collection in Siberia. Now we are preparing a program for the
South of Russia, and to celebrate the thousand year anniversary of Kazan
we intend to open a representation on the territory of the Kazan Kremlin.
- How did the idea of opening a Hermitage representation in Kazan come
about?
- After many years of collaborating with the museum staff and administration
of the city of Kazan, we came to the conclusion that we should elevate
this cooperation to a more serious level.
In the Hermitage we say that whether we are dealing with London or Kazan,
it is all the same. What we mean is that the requirements we set for the
exhibition premises are always equally high. The technical aspect, equipment,
security, display cases and, of course, informational support provided
for the exhibitions in Kazan always met these serious standards. It is
very important for the Hermitage that our exhibitions be the main or among
the main cultural events in the city where we are coming, and for this
to happen the local authorities must understand the significance of it
all.
-There have been instances when we have cancelled an exhibition, because
we felt that there was insufficient interest shown by the receiving side.
But in Kazan the level of interest has always been high. Each of our exhibitions
there received wide attention in the mass media. Our exhibitions coincided
with major events in the history of Kazan, with national holidays, and
President of Tatarstan M. Shaimiev always took an active part both in
the organization and in the opening of the exhibitions. In a word, we
had the feeling that our efforts are not in vain, that our activity is
in demand, that the Hermitage exhibitions in Kazan have attracted their
own audience.
-And now the Junker complex of the Kazan Kremlin has been specially restored
to receive the Hermitage collection. We are working on the exhibition
and the permanent show will be opened in time for the celebration of the
city's anniversary. The subject of the exhibition is The Culture of
the Golden Horde, which is very important both for the internal political
dialogue and dialogue between the local peoples in Tatarstan itself and
in Russia. This subject is very well researched and developed in the Hermitage.
We have a very rich collection of items which, I hope, will help to define
a disinterested, objective point of view. And in general Hermitage exhibitions
always try to take an objective, substantive approach to this or that
historical issue. We attempt to reduce commentary to a minimum: the exhibits
themselves tell an attentive viewer a great deal; all you need to do is
to give them the chance "to start talking."
The representation in Kazan is a very important step for the Hermitage.
We plan to make this center the focus of the city's cultural life. We
will conduct an extensive educational program, organize scholarly seminars,
conferences and lectures. The center will be permanently alive with work
and there is still a great deal to do in the future to implement this
project.
- Celebrated patrons of the arts from the past have their place in
the history of Russia and Petersburg. What will our own age and today's
patrons leave behind? How much real support does private money provide
for the preservation and expansion of the Hermitage collections?
- To begin with you have to spread the understanding that helping culture
is not the right but the obligation of society. Culture is the salt of
the earth, the essence of the philosophy of the nation's existence. It
is an expression of the national idea. The Hermitage has made its own
significant contribution to the respect the world continues to pay to
Russia and its culture.
-We must say that in the history of Russia, as in the history of most
any state, patrons of the arts were not so numerous. Shchukin, Morozov
and Tretyakov were not so much patrons as they were collectors for whom
art was a passion and to a certain extent an investment. Therefore talk
about the rebirth of patronage is not so compelling. Today's wealthy individuals
and business corporations have a conceptually new approach to financial
support for culture. We must be pleased with the way that an understanding
is growing in Russia that business bears a measure of responsibility to
society and the nation. At the same time there is a growing appreciation
that the "cultural stratum" is not something frozen in time and dead,
but living material which needs to be not only cared for and preserved
but also permanently perpetuated.
Essentially the state has three fields of responsibility to its citizens:
security of the country from outside threat, security of its citizens
within the country, and the preservation and increase of the cultural
heritage. Not every state manages these tasks very well, and our own present
authorities are no exception. However, I must say that when a state interferes
too actively in cultural affairs, as a rule this also does not lead to
anything good. We Russians had every opportunity to be persuaded of this
on the basis of our own experience. I am convinced that the state should
play a weighty but also a limited role in the support and development
of culture. Meanwhile foundations, corporations and business people -
the stratum of business which can and should participate in perpetuating
and increasing the nation's culture - occupy an ever clearer and active
position.
There are many different reasons why business participates in the development
of culture. Sometimes it is the simple interest of individuals. It may
be to create reputations. The most important reason is to bring up the
generations following us. Predictability and a defined pattern in history
– these are very important conditions for developing business. By helping
to properly educate the younger generation, business strives to create
a model for future society. However paradoxical it may seem, the creation
of an educated, well brought-up and cultured nation is essential and advantageous
first of all for business society itself. This is a serious matter, a
whole philosophy, and when our partners are at this level of understanding
the issue (as is the case with all the business partners of the Hermitage),
then we see this mutual enrichment which gives satisfaction to everyone.
People receive pleasure in their association with the world of the Hermitage,
and the Hermitage knows how to show its appreciation to its partners and
friends. Nowadays the Society of Hermitage Friends is a rather large and
constantly growing organization. Among our business partners there are
many leaders of small and medium-sized businesses, who most commonly provide
the Hermitage with some services for free or give us as their sponsorship
contribution some part of the revenue they earn from their contracts with
us. At the next level are our major partners, both Russian and foreign,
who help us to realize our large projects. As a rule there is some shared
commercial interest in this cooperation: advertisements, ratings, business
reputation, etc., but to a large extent these sponsors are moved by a
global understanding of the same eternal values which lie at the basis
of culture's perpetuation.
-What about the Hermitage's foreign relations? How are the museum's
relations developing with our close neighbors, in particular, with Finland?
- Every year the Hermitage prepares and sends abroad five or six exhibitions.
This gives people around the world not merely a chance to see part of
our collection but it is also a means of getting to know Russian culture
and Russian history. Russia plays a huge role in preserving, developing
and interpreting world culture and usually it is not so important which
historical period or country the exhibition is devoted to - for it inevitably
says something about Russian history, Russian art collecting and collectors,
about the influence of Russia in forming a "cultural stratum."
In the big order of things, culture is just about the only competitive
and non-shameful commodity that Russia can offer for trade today. The
same can hardly be said about arms or oil.
-We have permanent exhibition centers abroad where we hold thematic exhibitions
and also display individual works of art and canvases. Such centers are
operating in London and in Las Vegas (together with the Guggenheim Museum,
with whom we successfully cooperate for many years now). Recently a center
like this appeared in Amsterdam.
-We have extensive ties with other countries, especially with our closest
neighbors – Germany, Switzerland and Finland. Finnish companies provide
a great deal of assistance to the Hermitage in the field of technical
improvements. All of our art storage facilities have been reconstructed
using Finnish technologies, and Finnish companies helped to restore the
Hermitage Theatre. We try out many technical innovations in the Hermitage
such as equipment and engineering networks and in this process Finnish
specialists also take part. The Hermitage develops links with the art
institutions of Finland, with its museums and galleries.
The most recent and very important event for our two countries has been
the opening of an exhibition in the Hermitage dedicated to Marshal Mannerheim.
The exhibition is somewhat provocative, but it has been conceived in such
a manner as to elicit controversy and destroy the existing cliches on
both sides of the issue. We also tried to preserve our objectivity and
a substantive approach. For us Mannerheim is firstly a brilliant Russian
officer, member of the Guards Regiment, nobleman, and researcher of Central
Asia. And this role contrasts with the one he played in world history.
We always try to approach history in an unconventional manner, to prod
the visitor to think independently about the fate of peoples and individuals.
In the halls of the Hermitage history speaks through things. This genuine
reality of things is very important to understand life's laws.
-The Director of the Hermitage should not only understand issues in
art but also be a professional manager. What are the difficulties and
priorities in your position? What guides you in your choice of business
partners or suppliers for renovation and other work?
- Of course the Hermitage is a special world, and being part of it gives
us a special, positive energy. But the work of a manager, like any other
work, can be successful only when you find it interesting. Surely there
are both difficulties and positive aspects. I find it very interesting
to be the director of the Hermitage. If we are going to speak about the
choice of partners, then this is always rather strict. In the Hermitage
we have a Department of Development. We study the people and companies
who offer us their cooperation or money. You always have to understand
the motivation of your partner and to make your own serious decisions
on whom you can collaborate with, and whom you cannot. There is a criterion
of our own making. There is money that you cannot accept, since there
are various ways to make money which we cannot agree to. The responsibility
for these decisions rests with the Hermitage and, in the final analysis,
on me personally.
The basic scheme for cooperating with partners and sponsors these days
has been worked out. All of our exhibition centers abroad were a sort
of laboratory. That is where we learned how to conduct business, where
we tried out various models for interaction which it would have been difficult
to apply in Russian conditions. And we continue to learn from our foreign
colleagues. We study how to interact with partners. We learn about independence
and to appreciate our own worth.
The Hermitage is alive and developing. Additions are always being made
to our collection. Thus not long ago, thanks to help from the Ministry
of Culture, we acquired a portrait of Alexander I's wife. We also have
received as a gift the portrait of Napoleon which once belonged to Speransky.
We have succeeded in breaking down the negative stereotypes of the past
and in persuading both ourselves and those around us that notwithstanding
all the difficulties of our age Russian culture is not the poor stepdaughter
of some malicious stepmother, meaning the Economy. We are developing further.
The Hermitage has its pride and grand plans for the future. We believe
that most of these plans will be implemented.
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