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No Lobby for Museum. Mikhail Piotrovsky Against
Full Commercialization of Museums
Interview for the Rossiyskaya Gazeta (federal issue)
12 January 2011
Zhanna Vasilieva
Today it is clear for many people that there is a need for "culture-friendly"
laws. What should these laws be like? How are they applied in Russia and
abroad? Director of the Hermitage Mikhail Piotrovsky shares his views
on this issue in an interview to the RG.
Rossiyskaya Gazeta: Mikhail Borisovich, the Hermitage is put on
a special account. And even on a separate budget item. But in the New
Year it has faced a choice between a governmental and an autonomous institution,
as well as all other museums. Which do you prefer?
Mikhail Piotrovsky: In the course of disputes emerged the third
form - intermediary. It is a budgetary institution of a new type. We automatically
transfer to this new form, and we’ll see what comes next...
As regards the law on autonomous and other institutions (Federal Law
No. 83), it is actually intended to destroy the competitive advantage
of state cultural institutions. What is its purpose? On the one hand,
privileges of state cultural institutions are abolished. On the other
hand, the state relieves itself from the burden of maintenance of these
institutions. Meaning, come learn how to swim on your own. This will lead
only to the commercialization of culture.
Let’s assume we become an autonomous institution. Thinking logically,
from the commercial point of view, we must abolish all the privileges
that the museum offers for visitors who come from socially unprotected
classes. We subsidize these privileges from our salary funds which could
be used for restoration. If we are not a budgetary institution, the first
thing to do in order to survive is to abolish any and all privileges.
Just because the criterion for the museum success will be the profit it
makes. Profit should be made indeed but the success criteria are different.
The museum has its own mission in the society.
RG: The main concern regarding this law is the commercialization
of cultural institutions, right?
Piotrovsky: Not only this. There emerges the possibility of potential
bankruptcy and destruction of these museums, loss of part of their assets.
Or the possibility of their transfer to another entity, i.e. privatization.
Nobody will take away collections yet but buildings occupied by cultural
institutions can be easily taken away in case of bankruptcy. Therefore,
there are many risks involved.
RG: Is the creation of the endowment capital of the Hermitage
a sort of insurance against unfavorable market conditions?
Piotrovsky: It can be put so as well. But it is rather a growth
point. The law on endowment is one of few Russian laws which are culture-friendly.
It gives an opportunity to build up resources, contributions, to set up
a foundation, to select a management company for efficient investment
operations, to make profits which will be used for museum activities.
State cultural institutions are getting an opportunity to do the same
thing as non-governmental institutions which set up foundations.
RG: Has it been decided which foundation will be established for
the formation of the endowment capital and which management company will
you choose?
Piotrovsky: As regards the management company, there are plenty
of those who wish to perform this function for us. Among them are also
those who have never dealt with an endowment capital. While we have an
elaborate plan, we have not formed the endowment capital yet. In June
Vladimir Potanin made a proposal to create the endowment capital of the
Hermitage and made the first contribution worth USD 5 mln. It accounts
for approx. 10 per cent of the endowment capital. We need a large capital.
RG: It is believed that the size of the endowment capital should
exceed the budget by approx. 7 times. The budget of the Hermitage in 2010
was…
Piotrovsky: ... two billion rubles. It is clear that construction
expenses vary. This year we had substantial financing – half of the budget
was used to build the repository, restore the Eastern Wing of the General
Staff building, conduct capital repairs. I think the size of the endowment
capital of the Hermitage would be USD 50 mln.
RG: Regarding the pitfalls of the museum life… During the ceremony
of awarding of grants of the Potanin Foundation the Hermitage staff were
shown a film where a young jurist spoke about the state insurance of museum
exhibitions which she examined in England. Is it possible to apply these
practices if no state insurance of exhibitions is currently in place in Russia?
Piotrovsky: I hope it is. The system of state guarantees is very
important and we are struggling for it now. It is in place in the majority
of countries. It is very comprehensive. And not that burdensome as it seems.
RG: What is this system about?
Piotrovsky: When a museum receives an exhibition, it should pay
to insure works delivered from another country. In many countries the
state guarantees payments in case if something goes wrong. Insurance funds
are put on a special account and frozen. If something goes wrong, the
state pays funds to a collector or a museum. This system guarantees the
safety of museum items. For example, when the Hermitage received the Picasso
exhibition, insurance fees only were worth one million dollars. In February
within the framework of the year of Spain in Russia we are planning to host an exhibition from the Prado. Naturally, we pay for the insurance
policy worth one million dollars. The Ministry of Finance understands
it and has started discussions on this issue but the conversation never
ends. They argue: "An exhibition is a commercial enterprise? Commercial.
So you must have a commercial insurance policy. Include it in the estimate".
I ask: "How will you give us as the institution the money as per
the estimate for insurance?". They reply: "No, we won’t give
it". So another round of talks can be started.
RG: Maybe, you should charge money for attending exhibitions brought
to the Hermitage?
Piotrovsky: We, as well as the Metropolitan Museum, never charge
fees for attending an exhibition. It is sufficient that a person paid
for entrance into the museum. In England they do not charge for entrance
into museums but sell tickets for exhibitions, at a pretty high price.
We believe that the system when people pay for entrance tickets to museum
and have an opportunity to attend any and all exhibitions in it is a better
option.
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